@Terry
Sort of, but I would expect to see a panel like this in a building that is several decades old and has been retrofitted through several generations of cable/patch hardware options. If this is all new, it could be way more standardized.
@Terry
Properly loomed cable is easier to work on. Period.
How is it all labelled?
@zedeck
Well, since those wires aren’t yet installed, I put my focus on installing insulation in those rooms, afterwards I can install the electrical system
Unclewaffl3s said:
@zedeck
Well, since those wires aren’t yet installed, I put my focus on installing insulation in those rooms, afterwards I can install the electrical system
Don’t worry about the judgment here. Make sure everything ends up fully labeled in the end. You’re using relays on DIN rails, 99% of those fussing don’t know what they’re actually looking at. I’ve been an IT guy for decades - and absolutely for a new install done by pros I hire I expect perfection, because I’ll have to show the work to folks who just see the pretty factor and don’t know Ethernet from sneaker net. And if one of my guys uses a 10’ patch cable because they’re too lazy to go out and grab a 1’ cable, they just volunteered to do a server room clean up. (And I’ve been that guy myself - and do a full clean up as I abide by the rules I set). There are folks so into this as a hobby they’ll install a full on telecom or even server rack for a 12 port switch, a punch panel, and then have the rest of their gear sitting on shelves inside the rack. Ok, cool if you have the time and it’s fun. Functionally - so long as wires aren’t tangled and end up 100% documented and labeled, you’re golden. And clearly you’re nowhere near finished. You even said so. No cabling pro would have any issue with a partially done install looking like this, even when their end goal is utter perfection. Weird thing is everybody is so concerned over the cosmetics, nobody has even asked about how you’ve sourced and hard wired all of this. I however AM interested! Give me details!! Edit: scrolled down and some folks did realize this is unique and cool. I dig it!!
@Erick
So when we bought the house, there was a mixture of wiring all over. We found lead encased wiring, fabric sleeved ones, and some copper conduits. The house was built in 1937. I cut horizontal slots to connect all outlets, push buttons, and Ethernet. The house is brick so this was a big job. Pulling wires was difficult at times. All wires terminate in the basement, which was a huge pain to do but an absolute must for me. I wanted 1 central space for all wires to terminate. I did add some extra patch boxes on each of the floors with direct wire connections to this wall box in the basement. I’ve used cat 7a Sftp for all Ethernet, cat5 for all sensors, 12g0.8 for all push buttons, 2.5g 3 for outlets, and 1.5g3 for lights. All lights are connected to relays and programmable via the Loxone configuration. Push buttons can be assigned any function programmatically. A lot of work is still to be done, like the ventilation system, solar panels, heat pump, UPS, ceiling speakers, and intercom to name a few. All of these will be controlled by and wired to this cabinet. Making for (hopefully) a neat end result. This will be a long term project, but we fully intended to do this once and do it right.
@Unclewaffl3s
Can you elaborate on the 2.5g3 and 1.5g3? Are these metric wire sizes and conductor counts?
Masitsa said:
@Unclewaffl3s
Can you elaborate on the 2.5g3 and 1.5g3? Are these metric wire sizes and conductor counts?
2.5mm2, 3 wires. Yes.
Masitsa said:
@Unclewaffl3s
Can you elaborate on the 2.5g3 and 1.5g3? Are these metric wire sizes and conductor counts?
2.5mm2, 3 wires. Yes.
I’m used to seeing 22/4, 12/3, etc. the ‘g’ threw me off. So you mentioned 12g0.8, what is that? It doesn’t seem to match your other wires. It looks like 12 conductors of 0.8, but it would be reverse of the other ones you listed.
@Masitsa
No you’re right. I got a bit mixed up. 12 conductors 0.8mm2 for sensors and buttons.
@Erick
Thank you. I do industrial automation and this looks like Tuesday to me.
VortexVoyager said:
@Erick
Thank you. I do industrial automation and this looks like Tuesday to me.
Ha! Yup! When folk do stuff like this for a living, function is more important than pretty-pretty cables and wires. This install looks absolutely functional, he’s already labeling stuff. It’s the opposite of rat’s nest, it’s just not all tidy and perfect looking.
@Erick
The cobbler’s kids…
Same, but for a bigger home. Check it out here: https://postimg.cc/fkpkNrqz
Why? This is new? Why would you use anything other than cat 6a punched into rj45 jacks so you can use a patch panel?
Leon said:
Why? This is new? Why would you use anything other than cat 6a punched into rj45 jacks so you can use a patch panel?
I’m using 12g0.8 wire, that’s an extra 4 cables per wire
Leon said:
Why? This is new? Why would you use anything other than cat 6a punched into rj45 jacks so you can use a patch panel?
Those are mostly relay connections. The 18-16 awg here is better than that of CAT5, or 6 even on the trigger wires. I do like to use Cat6 on whatever I can, Makes it cleaner looking for sure. This installer could have made it a little cleaner. Sometimes on jobs like these time crunch and deadlines get in the way of ‘pretty’
Leon said:
Why? This is new? Why would you use anything other than cat 6a punched into rj45 jacks so you can use a patch panel?
I’m with you. His cell phone is also wired with twisted pair I bet.
Why not KNX?
Julius said:
Why not KNX?
It has KNX support