Any ethical gun makers out there…?

Been thinking about getting a gun for home security, but I just can’t get behind the NRA and what they do. Does anyone know of any ethical gun makers that make good options for home defense?

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Maxwell said:
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Who Funds the NRA? - A-Mark Foundation %22At least 22 manufacturers of arms, ammunition and accessories donate to the NRA, and some of the largest contributors are from outside of the U.S.%22

What horrible stuff does the NRA do? What does the NRA have to do with gun makers? What do you consider to be an ethical gun maker?

Emerson said:
What horrible stuff does the NRA do? What does the NRA have to do with gun makers? What do you consider to be an ethical gun maker?

NRA is the reason you get ‘thoughts and prayers’ instead of real solutions after school massacres.

@Tony
The NRA is a political organization; it doesn’t make guns.

What do school shootings have to do with home defense and ethical gun manufacturers?

Emerson said:
@Tony
The NRA is a political organization; it doesn’t make guns.

What do school shootings have to do with home defense and ethical gun manufacturers?

Gets money from gun makers

@Tony
I think more money goes to the NRA from gun owners than gun manufacturers.

What criteria makes a gun manufacturer ethical, and what makes them unethical?

Emerson said:
@Tony
I think more money goes to the NRA from gun owners than gun manufacturers.

What criteria makes a gun manufacturer ethical, and what makes them unethical?

The NRA nonprofit financial report is publicly available every year…

The NRA has a large endowment fund, and they make money like a trust fund kid. They invested long ago, and spend the investment returns. This is Top 1% financial stuff, which the majority of working class citizens never have enough money to ever try, or really learn enough to understand how the markets and tax loopholes work.

  • Clinton banned “Assault Weapons” in 1994, then it expired in 2004 during the Bush Administration. :man_shrugging:
  • Obama gave more firearms rights on trains.:man_shrugging:
  • Trump banned bump stocks, then The Supreme Court overruled it during the Biden Administration.:man_shrugging:

What you’re thinking about is more about States, laws are different across State lines, some have less background restrictions, so people drive there to purchase, and take back home to their State that wouldn’t sell to them. A Federal background check procedure is likely more effective than getting upset with the NRA, or banning guns.

They just arrested a man in North Carolina for converting weapons to full auto fire: Earl Carter Hamlet NC | FBI arrests NC man known as 'AK Guru' who is accused of selling hundreds of machine guns - ABC11 Raleigh-Durham

No different than people driving across State lines to purchase fireworks, or cigarettes from the reservations.

The NRA has NOTHING to do with responsible gun ownership. It’s a dying, corrupt organization that anyone under 65 has learned to walk away from. Don’t get caught up in the BS politics that forums like this one or other content creators throw at this company or that, and focus on educating yourself, training, and protecting yourself and those you love.

@GuardianGateways
Never heard of that forum and did not equate NRA with responsible gun ownership.

Tony said:
@GuardianGateways
Never heard of that forum and did not equate NRA with responsible gun ownership.

Based on your replies to others in this thread, I’m not entirely sure you posed your initial question in good faith. Sounds like you’re on the anti-2A side of the fence and are searching for reasons to criticize members of this community rather than learn from them. Best of luck on finding your way as you continue to limit yourself on what information you’re willing to absorb.

@GuardianGateways
As of writing, there are 8 top-level comments to the person who posted this question. 7 of them are criticizing them (in varying degrees of harshness) over the concept of asking for a gun from a manufacturer not affiliated with the NRA. 1 out of those 8 comments actually answered the question, which they immediately went in on detail on.

Accusing the person who posted this question of asking in bad faith when nobody is bothering to even answer their question to begin with, seems a bit like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Ruger, very good quality without the pretentious politics and prices. Can’t go wrong for a first-time owner

Andrew said:
Ruger, very good quality without the pretentious politics and prices. Can’t go wrong for a first-time owner

Any specific model?

Tony said:

Andrew said:
Ruger, very good quality without the pretentious politics and prices. Can’t go wrong for a first-time owner

Any specific model?

https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/ruger-security-380-semi-auto-pistol

Tony said:

Andrew said:
Ruger, very good quality without the pretentious politics and prices. Can’t go wrong for a first-time owner

Any specific model?

Look at their 9mm and .380 pistols and see what jumps out at you. Then start researching and go to a gun store and see how it fits your hand and how you like the sights. Here’s an example of a good starting model. Reasonably priced in today’s market with good quality. Ruger® Security-380® Centerfire Pistol Models
Hope it helps

NRA specifically or gun rights organizations in general.

I imagine most still donate to the NRA, although I’m not a fan of how they do things.

Huh? They all shoot bullets and have had military contracts, most with other nations. You’re asking a weird question! That’s not how you should pick the best firearm for your needs.:man_shrugging::man_facepalming:

There’s a bunch of private Mormon gun makers in Utah believe it or not.